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lesc
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More from around Blyth Mar 11, 2009 19:43:06 GMT -5

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Post by lesc on Mar 11, 2009 19:43:06 GMT -5

Everyone -

All pics taken with an Olympus E430 digital camera, one clever bit of kit.

This time I managed something that was more like a fieldtrip around the NE pylontastic place that's known as Blyth as I didn't have to worry about picking up SWMBO from the hairdressers

Starting with the A1:

Methinks these are the L66's marching from Blyth to Stella their construction is rather strange. There are photos further on which has these side by side with L2.

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No Stopping - somebody should make a 'I Stop For Pylons' sticker.

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On to West Hartford Business Park. Plenty of park but no business.

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Not a pylon but a wierd structure!

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This was on a pole.

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Back to the mystery 66KV NEEB pylons now.

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Route indicators?
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A couple of these arty shots much loved by folks in this forum.
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... and off they march to Blyth - the mini NEEB PL1 tower visible here too.
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This is where they terminate.
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Moving on -

L2 /275KV and L4M / 66KV at Boghouses, on the other side of East Hartford. Also one very large gormless horse.
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Looking the other way.
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Moving on gets me this L66 D90!
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.... and the whole thing starts to get a bit crowded. L66, L2 and L4M from left to right.

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Things start entering the Twilight Zone from here on in.
L4M deviation tower / 66KV but with 132KV insulators.

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This one says Northern Electric!
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Things are starting to get crowded. From left to right -
PL16/66KV, PL16 / 66KV, L2 and NEEB mini PL1 for a better name

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Another one:
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Things get even busier here:
From left to right...
PL16 terminal tower, L4M, NEEB mini PL1, L2, L4M terminal tower, L66, PL16, NEEB mini PL1, PL16 and an L2! I think....

Last Edit: Jul 13, 2009 8:31:06 GMT -5 by lesc

rillington God Posts: 551	More from around Blyth Mar 11, 2009 20:03:56 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rillington on Mar 11, 2009 20:03:56 GMT -5 Wow - that's some montage. Loads of stuff there.

poyks Guest	More from around Blyth Mar 12, 2009 6:45:04 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by poyks on Mar 12, 2009 6:45:04 GMT -5 Superb collection of photos!!

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More from around Blyth Mar 13, 2009 18:14:23 GMT -5

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Post by yv47r on Mar 13, 2009 18:14:23 GMT -5

Another excellent selection of photos including the mystery 275kV pylons near Lynemouth - I'm not sure if they are L8 towers though, they appear to be L3C suspension towers and L3 deviation towers if I have remembered my towers - perhaps Dr Fortran can confirm this? Also the L66 and L2 I think might be L2 and L3 towers?? We need a good pylon I-spy book ;D I'm sure the members would be able to supply a good quantity of photos to make the book!

Keep 'em coming!! More from moi after my next local fieldtrip in two weeks time on the 28th March (hopefully)!

Cheers Paul

rillington God Posts: 551	More from around Blyth Mar 13, 2009 19:06:14 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rillington on Mar 13, 2009 19:06:14 GMT -5 I would have said that that tower was L3C as well.

lesc
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More from around Blyth Mar 14, 2009 11:29:30 GMT -5

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Post by lesc on Mar 14, 2009 11:29:30 GMT -5

[quote author=yv47r board=pix thread=155 post=1085
Also the L66 and L2 I think might be L2 and L3 towers?? We need a good pylon I-spy book ;D
Cheers Paul[/quote]

snipped... this is a good idea - the pylon guide doesn't quite cut it, I thought L3 was a sort of mini - L2 for 132KV of which we have a few examples of around here buried in strings of L7's where the routes have been mucked about with. The lines between Blyth & Stella were 275KV but *not* L2 but dimensions were more similar to the L66.

The L66 pic from a previous posting:
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looks identical to these from this thread - using the system I'm using - both are 3 'X''s from top to centre and 2 1/2 X's from centre to bottom, one nearest camera has not quite vertical arm bracing hence guessing L66:

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How I'm doing it atm is comparing the photos that I take with the tower bible and the Flash website using things like the number of X's between top, middle and bottom sets of insulators - this doesn't always work but is a good start, works nearly every time for PL16 but fell over when using it to compare NEEB baby PL1 and Milliken PL1 deviation towers - both looked the same but the NEEB was smaller but not noticed by OP in field. As for this L2/3/6/66/7/8 thing all I can say is.... aaaargh!

This is an example of L3DS near Swallow Pond Country Park / 132KV which I sent Flash and was identified as such on here before Les signed up.

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... which is nothing like this with a 132KV PL16 on the left from previous posts in here I thought it was an L8.

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It's all a bit of a 'mare this Lx or Lxx thing how do the linesmen ID them?

Helllppppp!!

les

Last Edit: Dec 6, 2009 17:02:36 GMT -5 by lesc

rillington God Posts: 551	More from around Blyth Mar 14, 2009 13:37:40 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rillington on Mar 14, 2009 13:37:40 GMT -5 The 132Kv towers in the penultimate pictures look like L3s to me unless L3Cs can have same length crossarms as well as a longer middle crossarm.

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More from around Blyth Mar 17, 2009 10:48:41 GMT -5

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Post by Dr Fortran on Mar 17, 2009 10:48:41 GMT -5

Really nice set of pics. I'll see if I can cast some light on identification - my customary role in this group!

Methinks these are the L66's marching from Blyth to Stella their construction is rather strange. There are photos further on which has these side by side with L2.

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Actually the alleged L66 towers are L3, as are the others shown further down Les's posting. I'll post a note on L2/L3/L66 identification on the main discussion section. I think I've worked out a reliable way to tell.

Moving on gets me this L66 D90!
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Alas, it's an L3. I don't know if an actual L66 D90 was ever needed. If so and it's still standing then surely PAS needs a photo of the beast!

Things start entering the Twilight Zone from here on in.
L4M deviation tower / 66KV but with 132KV insulators.

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This seems to be a frequent feature of lines strung for a lower voltage than the rated voltage of their towers. L8 towers strung for 275kV often either have 400kV tension insulators or 275kV sets with extensions to them. I had wondered if this arrangement was to make subsequent upgrading easy to carry out (you could do it without dropping the conductors) but I really don't know. Any of the professionals who frequent this board know?

The differences are plainly obvious in this. Ping Dr. Fortran it's an L2 on the left and an L66 on the right?

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Err... no. L2 and L3. However a very good comparison of those two types and therefore a useful photo.

L8 / 275KV deviation tower near the smelter.
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... which march off towards Blyth.
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I'm fairly sure the big junction tower is L8 (some flavour of DJT), but the other alleged L8s are actually L3c, tha later version of L3 with extended middle crossarms on the line towers.

The L8's were strange. 275KV, right?
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L3c again. The giveaway is the D60 in the foreground. L3c has extended middle crossarms, but only on the line towers. The angles, like this D60, are the same as older L3 with the phases stacked vertically above each other.

Lovely set of photos - thanks Les. (I wish I knew more about the 66kV stuff, but that's fairly local to Yorks and the North-East and not something I've ever had much to do with.)

rillington God Posts: 551	More from around Blyth Mar 17, 2009 11:31:06 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rillington on Mar 17, 2009 11:31:06 GMT -5 It's bizarre isn't it that L3C towers have longer middle crossarms on suspension towers but same length crossarms on tension and deviation towers.

lesc Senior Member Posts: 467	More from around Blyth Mar 17, 2009 12:21:50 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by lesc on Mar 17, 2009 12:21:50 GMT -5 Excellent articles Dr. Fortran. Thanks for clearing it up. Les

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More from around Blyth Mar 17, 2009 17:44:01 GMT -5

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Post by yv47r on Mar 17, 2009 17:44:01 GMT -5

Mar 17, 2009 11:31:06 GMT -5 rillington said:

It's bizarre isn't it that L3C towers have longer middle crossarms on suspension towers but same length crossarms on tension and deviation towers.

I believe that L3C deviation towers do exist and one such route which needs investigation is the Hawkesbury to Berkswell route part of which can be seen from the M6 north of Coventry. I am hoping to go on a fieldtrip to this area soon to capture these towers on film.

Cheers Paul

rillington God Posts: 551	More from around Blyth Mar 17, 2009 19:56:19 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rillington on Mar 17, 2009 19:56:19 GMT -5 That would be fab to see. The L3C routes I know have deviation towers with the crossarms all being the same length.

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Post by lesc on Mar 14, 2009 11:29:30 GMT -5

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Post by Dr Fortran on Mar 17, 2009 10:48:41 GMT -5

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